Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance) (14:18): I have a very high regard for Mr Shepherd, but I have long been on the record as saying that I disagree with him on this occasion. We have taken the Paid Parental Leave Scheme that the government is putting forward to two elections. It has been widely— The PRESIDENT: Order! On my left: if you wish to debate the issue, the time to debate it is after three o'clock when taking note of answers, not now. Senator CORMANN: I know that the Australian Labor Party does not care about the judgements made by the Australian people at successive elections. I know that the Australian Labor Party is quite happy to join in with the Greens, to act in defiance of the will of the Australian people, as they did earlier today when they, again, refused to support the repeal of the Clean Energy Finance Corporation. This is a Labor Party which is out of touch with modern Australia. This is a Labor Party which, quite frankly, needs to get into the 21st century. You should start standing up for the interests of working women and you should start standing up for a stronger, more prosperous economy where everyone has the opportunity to get ahead.