Senator RONALDSON (Victoria—Minister for Veterans' Affairs, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Centenary of ANZAC and Special Minister of State) (14:45): I will take that on notice. I am a bit surprised that you would use question time for that, frankly. I would have thought that, if you had any sense, you would have picked up the phone to call the minister's office. Anyway, I am happy to talk about this government's view of the importance of science. But before that I owe Senator Carr an apology. I have over the last month accused him of being the science minister for all of six years. That is actually incorrect and I hope the he will accept my apology. It has come to my attention that Senator Carr was not the science minister for six years. Indeed, in the space of three months last year there were four Labor ministers responsible for science. So regrettably— Senator Moore: Mr President, on relevance: the specific question was about the grants and when they will be announced. The minister has taken the question on notice. We do not need a history of the process. The PRESIDENT: I draw the minister's attention to the question. The minister has 50 seconds remaining to address the question. Senator RONALDSON: It is a pretty tough school when you give an apology and you get a point of order taken on you! To finish off my answer: Chris Evans was the minister responsible, then there was Chris Bowen, then there was Craig Emerson, and then no less than Senator Farrell had some responsibility. Senator Moore: Mr President, again on relevance: you have drawn the attention of the minister to the question and it seems to me he has not got back to it. The PRESIDENT: I did draw the minister's attention to the question and asked the minister to address the question. The minister still has 20 seconds remaining. Senator RONALDSON: I said to Senator Carr that I would take that specific question on notice. He did ask me about science and I was attempting to answer. I note in relation to this government's commitment to science and research that the minister announced recently the latest round of funding— (Time expired)