Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate, Vice-President of the Executive Council, Minister for Arts and Attorney-General) (14:12): Thank you very much, Senator Singh, for your question. Might I remind you, Senator Singh, that there is a fundamental difference between those on your side of the chamber and those on my side of the chamber. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator BRANDIS: Come in spinner! And those on my— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: When there is silence, I will call Senator Brandis. I need to hear Senator Brandis's answer. Senator BRANDIS: Thank you, Mr President. There is a fundamental difference in approach between those on your side of the chamber, Senator Singh, and those on my side of the chamber when it comes to this issue, because, Senator Singh, you are the party of political censorship and we are the party of tolerance. We are the party of tolerance. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: When there is silence on my left, we will proceed. Senator BRANDIS: And might I say, Mr President, something that those on Senator Singh's side of the chamber never seem to be able to grasp: if you are the party of tolerance, if you believe in tolerance, you have to tolerate listening to the views of those whose views you may find offensive or disgusting, but you do not politically censor them. Now, Senator— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on both sides! When there is silence on both sides, I will call Senator Brandis. He is entitled to be heard in silence from both sides. Senator BRANDIS: I come now to Senator Singh's more immediate question about the Institute of Public Affairs. I can tell you, Senator Singh, that I had a cup of tea with the Chairman of the Institute of Public Affairs, the very distinguished emeritus senator Rod Kemp, in my chambers only an hour ago. I am pleased to tell you that Senator Kemp is in very good form. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Brandis, just resume your seat. Those interjections are completely disorderly. On my left, when there is silence, we will proceed. Senator BRANDIS: Those who remember him fondly, as I know Senator Conroy does, will be pleased to know that Senator Kemp is in rude good health. But I can also tell you— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Brandis, resume your seat, as Senator Moore has risen to her feet. Senator Moore: Mr President, I rise on a point of order on relevance. I am really pleased to hear that Senator Kemp is in good health, but, in terms of process, the question is about a briefing to the coalition members from the IPA and issues of response. We have not got to that question yet. The PRESIDENT: I believe that the minister needs to come back to the question and address it. The minister still has 15 seconds remaining. Senator BRANDIS: I am aware that officers of the IPA did have a briefing with the government backbench committee on Monday evening. I did not attend that briefing. In fact, I had no meetings with the IPA prior to Tuesday when the matter went to the cabinet— (Time expired)