Senator NASH (New South Wales—Deputy Leader of The Nationals in the Senate and Assistant Minister for Health) (14:05): I am not going to speculate on the budget. But I will inform the chamber that it is this government, this side of the chamber that has a focus on future health delivery in a sustainable way for this nation. We only have to look at the previous— Senator Moore: Mr President, I rise on a point of order: relevance. This point of order is fairly straight forward. There was a particular question on a statement made about going to the doctor 11 times and also about the data on which that statement was made. It was not speculation about the budget. Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister still has 38 seconds remaining. I am listening carefully to the minister's answer. There is no point of order at this stage. Senator NASH: It is this government that has a much greater focus on the ability of families to be able to attend medical practitioners, to get proper health services, unlike the previous government that was so focused on bureaucracy and duplication. We are focused on delivering health care in a sustainable way— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! On my right and on my left. Senator Moore: Mr President, I rise on a point of order: relevance. We now have 13 seconds left to go and we still do not have a specific answer to our question. I would ask you to draw the minister's attention to the question. The PRESIDENT: There is still no point of order at this stage. The minister has 13 seconds remaining. Senator NASH: Unlike those opposite, it is this side of the chamber that is focused on people and families being able to get the level of health care they deserve, unlike those opposite who are caught up in bureaucracy and duplication. (Time expired)