Senator JOHNSTON (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:10): It might be convenient for this senator to run a scare campaign, but if he takes the time to look at Virgin, which conducts 70 per cent of all of its operations in Australia, with Australians—notwithstanding being virtually totally foreign owned—the answer to his questions and his concerns is met by the facts of what is actually happening in the industry. Now, I know that the senator is not really interested in the facts of what is happening in the industry, because he comes into this place— Senator Cameron: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. This is another pathetic performance from Senator Johnston— The PRESIDENT: Order! No, this is not a debate! Senator Cameron: I have simply asked about issues such as maintenance jobs, and he has not gone near that. So he should bring himself to the question and tell the Australian public what is going to happen to Australian maintenance jobs. The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no point of order at this stage. The minister has 19 seconds remaining. Senator JOHNSTON: There is absolutely no reason, given the facts of the way the industry runs today, to believe that there will be any problem with Australian jobs were the sale act to be amended in line with the government's legislation. Virgin directly employs 9,000 Australians. (Time expired)