Senator NASH (New South Wales—Deputy Leader of The Nationals in the Senate and Assistant Minister for Health) (14:34): I would enlighten the Senate that these issues were canvassed at length during the Senate estimates process. I realise not everybody was able to watch the three hours—at least—of Senate questioning from Senators Faulkner and Wong at the Senate estimates process. I indicate to the chamber that there were a number of conversations that my office and I had with the department around taking down the website. This has been canvassed at length, as the senator would well know. The reasons for taking down that website are also well known and have been canvassed at length. I would refer the senator to any number of entries in the Hansard— Senator Moore: Mr President, I rise on a point of order about relevance. It was quite a specific question about timing: was it before the process or after? I ask you to draw the minister's attention to the question. The PRESIDENT: I am listening to the minister's answer closely. The minister is addressing the question. I cannot tell the minister how to answer the question. The minister still has one minute and three seconds remaining to address the question. Senator NASH: I would just inform the Senate again of the reasons for taking down the website. The cost-benefit analysis was not completed. The oversight advisory committee— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! This is not a time to debate the issue. There are procedures here. You stand and take a point of order. Senator Wong interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Moore is on her feet seeking to take a point of order, Senator Wong. Senator Moore. Senator Moore: Again, my point of order is on relevance. We want not a rehash of what happened but the timing: was it before or after? The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister still has 49 seconds, and I do draw the minister's attention to the question. Senator NASH: Secondly, the oversight advisory committee had yet to complete the advice to the forum about the anomalies. Senator Moore: Mr President, on a point of order, again specifically on relevance: the question has been asked. The minister has had her attention drawn to the question. The question is: before or after? The PRESIDENT: As I have said before, I cannot instruct the minister or tell the minister how to answer the question. I did draw to the minister's attention, at the 49-second mark of time remaining in this answer, to the need to address the question. The minister now has 40 seconds and I draw the minister's attention to the question. Senator NASH: Thirdly, the communication and education strategy that would need to go with the launch of any website had not been completed. I directed the website— Senator Moore: Mr President, again, on a point of order on relevance: there are now 28 seconds remaining, and the question was specifically, as you had drawn the minister's attention to: before or after? Senator Ian Macdonald: Mr President, on the point of order: clearly, the Labor Party are not interested in asking questions. They just want to waste time with points of order. But, clearly, the minister was actually going through the process, all of which she went through ad infinitum at the estimates, when Senator Wong could not bother to or did not have the intelligence to get— The PRESIDENT: That is not a point of order. Senator Ian Macdonald: No, I'm answering the point of order that was raised. The PRESIDENT: No, no. That is not necessary. Senator Ian Macdonald: I am responding to it. The PRESIDENT: It is not a debating time, Senator Macdonald, and you are— Senator Ian Macdonald: Well, I'm responding on why it is not a point of order— The PRESIDENT: well aware of that. There is no point of order on your part, Senator Macdonald. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I have already said now three times I cannot instruct the minister or tell the minister how to answer the question. The minister still has 28 seconds remaining and I have drawn to the minister's attention now on two previous occasions the need to address the question. The minister has 28 seconds remaining to address the question. Senator NASH: So it was my decision, and mine alone, to remove the website. The actual timing of any phone call in my office—I do not have that information to hand.