Senator KIM CARR (Victoria) (14:41): Mr President, I ask a supplementary question. Does the Assistant Treasurer still try to maintain that he did not know the Obeids were involved in owning one-third of the company? Does the Assistant Treasurer stand to gain a parcel of shares worth approximately— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on both sides! Senator KIM CARR: Did the Assistant Treasurer stand to gain a parcel of shares worth approximately $3.5 million if the Australian Water Holding company entered into a contract with Sydney Water? Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I remind the Senate again that the question need only be addressed in so much as it pertains to the portfolio. Senator Wong: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. In the interjections that just occurred Senator Brandis made an extraordinary allegation to Senator Carr. I would ask him to withdraw it. The PRESIDENT: Because of the general disorder at that stage I did not hear a specific comment. Senator Wong: I am inviting Senator Brandis to withdraw the assertion about who put Senator Carr into parliament and the suggestion about criminals. He ought to withdraw that interjection. Senator Abetz: Your former national president is in jail. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on both sides! I made it quite clear that I did not hear anything that might have been said by Senator Brandis. I invite Senator Brandis, if he did make such a claim, to withdraw it. That is the invitation. I have done that previously on other occasions. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: I have made the comment prior to calling the minister.