Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:22): It appears as though the lack of consideration for the truth in these matters, as exemplified from Senator Carr, has moved down the road to Senator Collins. The simple fact is that Toyota said, like Holden did, like Ford did and like Mitsubishi did: 'No matter what the government might put up, we will not be able to continue manufacturing.' Indeed, in March 2012, Ms Gillard announced $215 million for Holden, saying that it would secure its future in Australia until 2022. But, within months, 670 jobs were lost. So the Labor Party promise, the Labor Party guarantee, stood for absolutely nothing. Senator Moore: Mr President, I rise on a point of order that goes to relevance. I have given the minister sufficient time. The particular question was around the $500 million withdrawal. That has not been referred to in the answer. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order at this stage. The minister is answering the question and the minister still has six seconds. Senator ABETZ: I hope there is another supplementary. Stefan Jacoby, Asia-Pacific General Manager of General Motors, completely and utterly rejects— (Time expired)