Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:03): Once again, proof is never a relevant consideration for this particular former minister. What a shameful thing to say—that it was this government that forced Holden out of Australia, when we all know that Holden itself has repudiated that false assertion by Senator Carr. So, having been repudiated by Holden, Senator Carr still peddles the dishonest lines. Can I suggest to him: we do have difficult circumstances, and occasions like this require people to elevate themselves out of the political gutter and consider the future of these workers—workers whose future is now in doubt, and with whom we want to work to ensure a good future. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator ABETZ: Mr President, you can hear those opposite—they do not want to hear the truth. The PRESIDENT: Order, on my left! Interjections are disorderly and Senator Abetz, as I have said already, is entitled to be heard in silence. Senator ABETZ: Removing the carbon tax would be another great boost to manufacturing.