Senator RONALDSON (Victoria—Minister for Veterans' Affairs, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Centenary of ANZAC and Special Minister of State) (14:57): There are some very golden rules in here, Senator. Although you might be new, you do not have to take a dog's breakfast of a question like that. The simple fact is that when you go back and reflect on what the Australian Labor Party has done to the car industry, the carbon tax which added about $400 to $500 on the cost of a car, and when you look at what has been withdrawn by Senator Carr and others— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! If people wish to debate this question the time is after 3 pm. Senator Ronaldson is entitled to be heard in silence. Senator RONALDSON: Thank you, Mr President, it is very hard to concentrate. Can I just say to the honourable senator: at close of business before Christmas, you, and those beside you, have got an opportunity to deliver to the car industry, to deliver to the mining industry, to deliver to Australian industry the best Christmas present you can give them, and that is to allow the abolition of the carbon tax. We are sick and tired of the crocodile tears from Senator Carr, the great job destroyer— (Time expired)