Senator WONG (South Australia—Leader of the Government in the Senate and Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:44): I am sure it is very distressing for many Australians and certainly disappointing for those of us in this chamber that the senator chooses to treat such a difficult policy issue in the way that she did. I am very happy to have a policy discussion about irregular maritime arrivals. I am very happy to do that. It is a complex policy area. There are 46 million people displaced worldwide, and the world has changed, when it comes to people smuggling, since 2000. The world has changed in many ways, as Senator Carr in part alluded to in an earlier answer. I do not think that we serve the Australian people well to use something as tragic as drownings in the way that they were used in that question—to talk about 'rolling out the carpet' or whatever the phrase was in such a flippant way. We are talking about people's lives, and we are talking about a complicated policy issue— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, just resume your seat. When there is silence we will proceed. Senator Wong. Senator WONG: Thank you, Mr President. We are talking about a policy problem that will never be solved by a three-word slogan, and it will never be solved by a party that does not even have the guts to raise their policy with the President of Indonesia when they had their chance. That really showed what feet of clay the Leader of the Opposition has—what feet of clay has this man who beat his chest, entered into this appalling debate in which he sought to use the tragedies that have occurred for political gain, and then did not even have the courage to raise his policy position with the President of Indonesia, because he knew he would be rebuffed.