Senator BOB CARR (New South Wales—Minister for Foreign Affairs) (14:29): This leader without policies, this leader who refuses to look at the evidence, this leader who ignores the evidence of people-smuggling—just ignores it— Senator Milne: Mr President, I rise on a point of order going to relevance. As I indicated before, personal attack is no substitute for answering the question. The PRESIDENT: The minister has been answering for 11 seconds. I do remind the minister of the question. Senator BOB CARR: My sentence did have subjunctive clauses in it, but I am reaching the core of the sentence, which is that you are not looking at the evidence. The evidence is of people smuggling, economic refugees and a spike in numbers coming overwhelmingly from people who are from majority ethnic or religious groups in the community they come from. The Greens party will not consider that. When people arrive in Australia without authorisation, any claims they make for their reasons to travel to this country are assessed by the Department of Immigration and Citizenship. If these claims are not covered by Australia's international obligations, they will be returned to their homeland wherever possible. That is why Australia has, and will continue to— (Time expired)