Senator CONROY (Victoria—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy and Minister Assisting the Prime Minister on Digital Productivity) (14:34): The withering attack on the National Broadband Network from those opposite could not even make three questions. They made about two and a half questions before they had to wander off into politics. The only threat to all Australians getting access to the National Broadband Network is those opposite. Under their policy, if you want to get connected to Labor's NBN, they want you to pay up to $5,000 per home or you are going to be disconnected from it. Those watching the ABC News over the last two nights might have noticed that Malcolm Turnbull refused to be interviewed— The PRESIDENT: Order! You need to refer to people in the other place— Senator CONROY: Mr Turnbull. The PRESIDENT: Thank you. Senator CONROY: Mr Turnbull refused to be interviewed because he did not want to try to explain how he was going to use pixie dust to make Australia's copper network deliver the speeds that those opposite are promising. They know at the end of the day that their policy is 'fraudband'. (Time expired)