Senator MASON (Queensland) (14:48): Mr President, I ask a further supplementary question. Given that, in the 5½ years since Mr Rudd's promise of fast computer connections was made, only 12 out of 2,650 high schools have been connected to the NBN— Senator Conroy: Nineteen. Senator MASON: Nineteen—will the minister now admit that the much-touted digital education revolution is just a sham? Will he look into this embarrassing policy fiasco? Senator Kim Carr: He might be a knuckle dragger! Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: I remind honourable senators on both sides that time for debating this is after 3 pm.