Senator THORP (Tasmania) (14:55): Mr President, I have a further supplementary question. Can the minister outline to the Senate exactly what kind of services will be lost as a result of this change? Senator Ian Macdonald: Mr President, I raise a point of order. Hypothetical questions are not allowed. Can you please explain to me how this could possibly be allowed as a question: 'What might happen in the future if something happens?' It is purely hypothetical and should not be allowed. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I have said there is no point of order. I am saying it is within the standing orders. I am allowing the question to stand. I am calling the minister to answer the question. Senator Ian Macdonald: Mr President, on the point of order: I am asking for a ruling from you— The PRESIDENT: I have ruled that the question is in order:, Senator Macdonald. I am not going to be badgered. Senator Ludwig.