Senator CONROY (Victoria—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy and Minister Assisting the Prime Minister on Digital Productivity) (14:07): Despite Senator Abetz trying to twist and turn his way through that question because he did not get the answer he claimed to be quoting—he was even reduced to saying 'implied in that answer'—what did the current Australian Press Council chair, Mr Julian Disney, say in his submission? He said: … the possibility of reduced funding remains a significant concern, fuelled on occasion by the comments of publishers who dislike adverse adjudications or other Council decisions. … … … The Council’s almost total reliance on funding from publishers, and especially from a few major publishers, is widely criticised as a crucial detraction from its real and apparent independence. So when those opposite say, 'No problems here with the Press Council, it's working fine— (Time expired)