Senator BOB CARR (New South Wales—Minister for Foreign Affairs) (14:46): I am proud to say that on no occasion when I have spoken to representatives of the government of South Korea has this matter been raised in any form. The reason— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! When there is silence, we will proceed. Senator BOB CARR: The reason for this decision on howitzers was announced by the Minister for Defence. In October 2009 the government announced it would acquire four batteries of lightweight towed howitzers, and the government announced the cancellation of the acquisition of self-propelled on the highest advice of the people in the armed forces. Was it supposed to do a different thing? Was it supposed to ignore that advice it received from the highest levels of the ADF on the recommendation of Defence— (Time expired)