Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:14): I am looking forward to not being sledged now, given that Senator Abetz says that is the new benchmark in the Senate. I predict— The PRESIDENT: Order! Just come to the question. Senator WONG: I predict, Mr President, that will not last 30 seconds. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator WONG: Here we go—30 seconds. The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Wong! Order on both sides! Senator Wong, just come to the question that has been asked. Senator WONG: We have handed down our midyear review and found billions of dollars in savings to return the budget to surplus and we are on track to deliver it. This government will always ensure the appropriate fiscal settings to support the economy and jobs, and that will never change. That is why it remains appropriate to bring the budget back to surplus, given the economy is growing at trend, giving the RBA room to move on interest rates. Those opposite might recall that they did not enjoy official interest rates at this rate, certainly not in the period leading up to the change of government. Australians with mortgages are obviously substantially better off as a result of those interest rate cuts. Of course, the room for those cuts has been brought about by the fact that the government has engaged in fiscal consolidation—that is, bringing the budget back to surplus. So those opposite can play all the games they like on this issue, but the reality is this: those opposite still cannot tell the Australian people whether they support the savings measures in MYEFO. They still cannot tell people. So, when they want to come— Senator Fierravanti-Wells: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. Senator WONG: Of course you will get up, because it is embarrassing to talk about fiscal— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, resume your seat. Senator Fierravanti-Wells: I thought my question was very clear, Senator Wong, and that is: why is the government walking away from its promise to deliver a budget surplus in 2012-13? I would have thought it was pretty simple, Senator Wong. You can understand plain English. The PRESIDENT: Order! That is debating the issue. There is no point of order. Senator Wong, you have 37 seconds. Senator WONG: How about this for plain English: will you support our savings measures or not, Senator? You are still going, 'We might; we might not. We might; we might not.' For you lot, fiscal discipline is all about talk but not about actual decisions, because you are still having a fight in your party room as to whether or not you should support the reduction in the baby bonus or not. The shadow Treasurer says it is the end of the age of entitlement and then he says this is like the one-child policy. Oh, give us a break! Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: We will just wait a moment until people have quietened down. On my right! And on my left! When there is silence we will proceed.