Senator LUDWIG (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry and Minister Assisting on Queensland Floods Recovery) (14:27): I thank Senator Boswell for his interest in fishing. Nothing has changed. I continue to support the independent regulator. I continue to support the way it manages the fishery. But talking about output controls and input controls—correct me if I am wrong, Senator Macdonald—I think it was Senator Macdonald's work that changed it from input controls to output controls. Senator Ian Macdonald: Yes, that is right. Senator LUDWIG: Contrary to some of the claims that have been made, I am advised that large trawlers were invited here during the Howard government. They invited one, and I think that has been mentioned couple of times, the MV Veronica, and by the time it arrived in 2004, they stopped it. But the nature of this particular vessel was— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator LUDWIG: One of those areas is that, in that instance, they changed the entire law. They went from input controls, which is gear, right through to output controls. But there is nothing that has changed—AFMA continues to enjoy the government's confidence and continues to be an independent regulator. What is different is that Minister Burke— Senator Ian Macdonald interjecting— Senator LUDWIG: You interject, I know. But as I have said time and time again, I requested advice at the time from my department about my powers to act, and it was clear that I did not have the power to act under my legislation. As fisheries minister, my responsibility is to make sure that our fisheries remain some of the most sustainable and best managed in the world. That is why I did announce a review with Minister Burke— (Time expired)