Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:12): As I said in answer to the first supplementary question, the information is ordered in confidence. It was provided to the JCPAA. The classification of this information is a matter for the Auditor-General. I am advised that the JCPAA will consider how the information is dealt with. I also make this point clear: my department has examined all instances identified by the Audit Office and is of the view that no further action is required with regard to those grants. My department has examined all instances identified by the Audit Office and is of the view that no further action is required with regard to those grants. What we have is a government that is being far more transparent than those opposite ever were. We all remember regional rorts. Senator Brandis: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. Senator WONG: You are so sensitive, Senator Brandis. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, resume your seat. Senator Brandis: In the primary question the minister was asked one thing: to name the ministers. You gave her all the latitude in the world, and after the expiry of two minutes she had not approached the question. In the second supplementary she was asked again to name the ministers. She has still not done so. Given that she defied the standing orders by refusing to deal with the primary question and by refusing to abide by your ruling in relation to the primary question, you should bring her to the question now and direct that she name the ministers. Senator Jacinta Collins: Mr President, on the point of order, perhaps you could remind Senator Brandis that you ruled he had no point of order— The PRESIDENT: This is not debating time. If you wish to speak on the point of order you may. Senator Jacinta Collins: I do wish to speak on the point of order because Senator Wong has been directly relevant. The opposition may not like the answer they have received. Senator Brandis should receive an education in the role of the Joint Committee of Public Accounts and Audit. It was cruel that Senator Sinodinos was asked to ask this question, given his record of lost ministers during his period assisting the Prime Minister. The PRESIDENT: Order! I believe the minister has been addressing the question. The minister has 10 seconds remaining. Minister, if you have anything further to add you have 10 seconds. Senator WONG: I have now, on a number of occasions, explained that the information is ordered in confidence. That classification is a matter for the Auditor-General and the JCPAA is considering it. The fact that the opposition do not like that answer does not make it not relevant. (Time expired)