Senator CHRIS EVANS (Western Australia—Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Science and Research and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:56): What I do know is that fund managers and investment firms understand that there is only one side of politics committed to producing a surplus. There is only one side that has a responsible economic program, and that is the Labor government. We do not have a $70 billion black hole. We are not going to have to slash health or education so we can give back money to the mining companies who have record profits. That is your economics. That is the voodoo economics that Joe Hockey and others are now dealing with. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: If senators wish to debate, they will have their opportunity soon. Senator Evans, you have 27 seconds remaining. Please refer to people in the other place by their correct title. Senator CHRIS EVANS: Apparently Senator Cormann, as part of the economic team of the Liberal Party is 'growing a cake'. All I know is that he has to find $70 billion in cuts to education and health and he has to give money back to the mining companies. And they are going to take away the savings from the private health insurance rebate change as well. None of their economics adds up. They have no plans and they have no-one who is literate in economics. (Time expired)