Senator BOB BROWN (Tasmania—Leader of the Australian Greens) (14:11): Mr President, I ask a further supplementary question. In view of the brigadier general's request for that equipment, what has the minister to say to the Australian people in light of the fact that, instead of having our troops withdrawn from Oruzgan, the government is denying the equipment to the Afghan forces who say they would be able to control that province given that equipment? How does the government explain that?