Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:43): It is true there is an upfront cost to this plan. It is true also that, once it is up and running, the scheme is broadly budget neutral and is consistent with the government's fiscal strategy and fiscal reporting frameworks. The government does not intend—as was the case under Mr Costello—to release information beyond the forward estimates for policies, for the same reasons, I am sure, that Mr Sinodinos could explain to Senator Birmingham, should he desire. Obviously, there will be a midyear budget update, which will update figures in the usual way, and then the budget next year in which a further year will be added to the forward estimates. Senator Birmingham: Mr President, on a point of order: the minister was asked very specifically when this tax package would cease to run at a budget deficit. That is the clear point of the question. If the minister is not going to answer it, that is fine; she can say so and sit down. Otherwise, she is clearly not being directly relevant to keep talking, having indicated that she simply will not say when this tax package will stop running and adding to the budget deficit. The PRESIDENT: The minister is answering the question and the minister has 12 seconds remaining to answer the question. Senator WONG: I have directly responded to the question. I said we will not be releasing figures on this or any policy beyond the forward estimates, which is the same as Mr Costello's position. I have also said that, once it is up and running, this is a broadly budget neutral package consistent with the fiscal strategy. (Time expired)