Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:40): I do not have the fiscal tables, which are in the EM, in front of me, but those fiscal tables, which were distributed in the revised explanatory memorandum, set out both the impact in terms of the fiscal balance and the underlying cash balance as well as the impact on revenue and receipts. If the senator is going to an issue which he raised with me previously, which is the impact on— Senator Abetz: No, he's not. Senator WONG: Senator, if you would let me respond. Do you want to ask the question, Senator Abetz? The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, ignore interjections. They are completely disorderly. If people wish to debate the issue, the time is at the end of question time. Senator Ian Macdonald: Mr President, a point of order on the grounds of relevance: Senator Birmingham clearly said all he wanted was a figure. The minister has said she has not got the figure, so she should be sat down; she cannot answer the question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. Senator Wong, you have one minute and 29 seconds remaining. Senator WONG: As I said, the budget impact is set out in the fiscal tables associated with the EM. You will see in those, Senator, and I think we were discussing them in the chamber, both the impact on the UCB and the fiscal balance. I am happy to read them all out if you want. This is inclusive of government measures, because we of course have separately costed those which were the MPCCC measures. The fiscal impact, which is table 3, is 4,424 over the forwards—that is, 2,940, 1,061, 1,607 and 938 over the forward estimate period. The UCB impact—this is the MPCCC plus government measures—is 2,907, 558, 701 and then a positive 32, which is a total impact of 4,134. They are in table 3 and table 4 of the fiscal tables in the EM.