Senator CARR (Victoria—Minister for Innovation, Industry, Science and Research) (14:30): Senator Bishop, I thank you very much for the question. As a senator from Western Australia, you understands just how important this project is. The Square Kilometre Array is one of the most ambitious projects the international science community has ever attempted. It will be a telescope with the power to look back to the dawn of time. The Australia-New Zealand SKA— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! There is obviously a lot of interest in the minister's answer by the amount of calling out that is occurring. If we had a bit more silence, I might be able to hear the answer as well. Senator CARR: Mr President, the SKA is a device which will look into black holes. It will search out black holes and it may well find a Liberal Party policy there. It is a pity you could not take more notice of these important issues. The SKA bid by Australia and New Zealand is a very strong one. We should not underestimate the fact that the bid from southern African states is very stiff competition. I am heading off to Canada to present the case to the international radio astronomy community and I trust that the international community will be left in no doubt about our ability to deliver this project. Honourable senators interjecting— Senator CARR: I hear people over there asking, 'Why are you doing it?' The PRESIDENT: Order! When there is silence on both sides of the chamber, we will proceed. Senator CARR: I understood that this was a project that actually attracted bipartisan support in this parliament. I understood that there were some on the other side that actually understood—and Senator Back is one of those. I understood that this is a project that people knew would be able to help us transform the way we live. This is not just merely a question of being able to produce world-class research. It is a massive infrastructure project that will create the technologies for the future and will help us reshape the way in which we live, whether it be through the provision of off-grid power supplies or whether it be in the provision of supercomputing capacity, which will have massive implications. (Time expired)