Mr ALBANESE (Grayndler—Prime Minister) (14:09): I am absolutely delighted to talk about Medicare, because what the member opposite has said is to quote us at the Launceston launch in the electorate of Bass when we launched our tripling of the bulk-billing incentive for all Australians. That followed our previous budget, where we tripled the bulk-billing incentive for concession cardholders. That has resulted in 90 per cent of those concession cardholders seeing a doctor for free with bulk-billing. Opposition members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order, members on my left! We are just going to pause for a second. We are not just going to have this free-for-all at the beginning of question time. We are going to allow people to ask questions in silence and then give respect to the person answering the question as well. We are not going to continue this way. We are getting into good habits early. Mr ALBANESE: This $8.5 billion investment in Medicare we said at the time would lift bulk-billing rates for every patient to 90 per cent by 2030, cutting costs for Australians, improving care and supporting GPs. That is the policy that we announced. You might remember, Mr Speaker, that before I finished that speech in the electorate of Bass with the now member for Bass— The SPEAKER: The Prime Minister will pause and I will hear from the Leader of the Opposition. Ms Ley: Mr Speaker, the point of order is on relevance. I know the Prime Minister is now saying his promise had terms and conditions, but the question is: how many Australians had to use their credit card to see a doctor? The SPEAKER: Resume your seat. I am just going to remind the Leader of the Opposition that she can raise points of order but it has to be pretty clear what the point of order is, not adding extra material to her statements. The Prime Minister was asked about his comments. He is talking about the announcement, about what the question was and he is giving context to the House—and I am listening carefully—about the electorate he was in and what he said about this announcement. So he couldn't be more directly relevant. I am sure he will continue to make sure he is. Mr ALBANESE: I certainly will, Mr Speaker. You may well recall that policy being matched almost before I finished my speech. At the time we put out written documentation. We had costed policies. I'm not surprised that the opposition don't recognise this territory, but we had costed policies of $8.5 billion to lift bulk-billing rates to 90 per cent by 2030. The timeline hasn't changed, the investment hasn't changed and the modelling is the same. The question is: have the coalition changed their position? When I made the announcement on the date that the member suggested, they said they would back it—and now it appears that they don't back it. Now it appears they don't support it, which isn't surprising given that when they came into office last time, as we reminded people once or twice during the election campaign, they tried to abolish bulk-billing altogether by introducing a Medicare co-payment. One of the big differences in this chamber is that we on this side value Medicare; those on that side are led by someone who said, 'If you don't pay for it, you don't value it.' Well, we value Medicare. We will defend Medicare, and they will always undermine it.