Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:51): I'd make a few points in response to Senator Scarr on that. The first is that I think that to characterise it as the Prime Minister 'correcting' doesn't reflect appropriately that Senator Farrell was very upfront about the mistake he made—and full credit to him. There are some in this place who try to not own up when they make a mistake, and I think he did. And it's an easy mistake to make. Obviously, there are a lot of conversations between— Senator Ruston interjecting— Senator WONG: You think it's funny, Senator Ruston? Honourable senators interjecting— Senator WONG: There's a lot of graciousness on that side, isn't there! It's an easy mistake to make. There are always a lot of conversations. In relation to beef, the implication in all of the opposition's questions is that somehow this is related to a discussion with the United States. I want to make two points very clear. First, our biosecurity process is independent. It was commenced under, I think, Mr Joyce, when he was the minister, and went through a proper process not related to any negotiations. The PRESIDENT: Senator Scarr, a point of order? Senator Scarr: On direct relevance—it was a very tightly worded question as to whether or not the beef ban was discussed. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Scarr. You made reference to Senator Farrell, you made reference to discussions with the US and you made reference to the Prime Minister, so I do think the minister is being relevant to your question. Minister Wong. Senator WONG: The second point I'd make—through you, President—to Senator Scarr is that, of course, the US have raised this publicly. The President raised this in the press conference on 'Liberation Day', so it's not a secret that the US had a view about it. But the process was independent. The decision has taken over a decade. The first US application was in 2015. The most recent application was made in 2019, and it's been under review since then. The review was undertaken by the Department of Agriculture, Fisheries— Senator McDonald interjecting— Senator WONG: Would you like to stand up and say something, Senator McDonald? Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator McDonald, your constant interjections are disorderly and rude. I would ask you to desist, and, if you can't, please leave the chamber. Senator Scarr, first supplementary?