Mr BOWEN (McMahon—Minister for Climate Change and Energy) (14:37): I thank my honourable friend for the question. Yesterday I outlined to the House the situation in New South Wales, which was that five power plant units were down—four coal and one gas—three to be expected and two breakdowns. And that did put pressure on the system. Now, it takes a particular level of prejudice against renewable energy to say that coal-fired power station breakdowns are caused by renewable energy. I'm not quite sure of the logic there! But I'm sure those opposite have an explanation as to how that occurred. It's all the fault of renewable energy again! I know that those opposite are disappointed that yesterday there actually were enough energy reserves in New South Wales and there were no blackouts caused by lack of energy. That comes as a considerable disappointment to the member for Fairfax in particular, who wakes up every morning, turns the light switch on and is disappointed when the lights come on, because he's more interested in political power than reliable power. Mr Taylor: That's you, Chris; that's you! Mr BOWEN: The member for Hume interjects. He's been very voluble. He asked me this morning whether I've kept the lights on, and I did manage to give him an affirmative answer. To be fair, the member for Hume is an expert in these matters, because he used to hold my portfolio. They say it's the responsibility of the energy minister to ensure that there are no blackouts, and they have a point. The member for Hume knows a lot about it. In 2019, when he held my job, he gave a speech, and he said: There are real risks, particularly in Victoria as we approach summer and it's important that we apply pressure to ensure there's balance in our electricity system. That is what the member for Hume said when he was Minister for Energy. He says there were no blackouts. On 25 January 2019, 200,000 customers did not get power because of a lack of reserve when he was the Minister for Energy. There have been no blackouts caused by lack of energy while we've been in office, so it's Taylor 200,000 and Bowen nil so far. That's the track record that we have. In the same speech, the member for Hume said that we need to ensure ongoing coal-fired power, and he said: One of the Morrison government's top energy priorities is to avoid premature closure of our coal- and gas-fired power stations … Following him giving that speech, it was announced in October 2019 that Callide B would close, in October 2019 that Loy Yang would close, in March 2021 that Yallourn would close, and in September 2021 that Mount Piper would close, and then, in February 2022, Loy Yang and, in February 2022, Eraring, which he heard about on the radio. The New South Wales government didn't tell him and the company didn't tell him, because no-one trusted him.