Dr CHALMERS (Rankin—Treasurer) (14:11): We understand the pressures on living standards, and that's why we're doing something about them. That's why we're rolling out cost-of-living support that those opposite don't support. That's why we're giving a tax cut to every taxpayer, which those opposite wanted to call an election over. That's why we're helping people with their energy bills. That's why we're helping with what people pay at the pharmacy. It's why we're providing rent assistance. It's why we're doing cheaper early childhood education. It's why we're getting wages moving again after a decade of deliberate wage stagnation and wage suppression. Mr Hogan interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order. The member for Page will cease interjecting. Dr CHALMERS: If those opposite really cared about living standards they'd support our efforts to help people with the cost of living, but they don't. If those opposite cared about living standards they'd support our efforts to get wages moving again, but they don't. In fact, they want people working longer for less. We want people earning more and keeping more of what they earn. Mr Taylor interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Hume is going to cease interjecting. Dr CHALMERS: When we came to office, real wages were falling 3.4 per cent. Now they're growing again. That's not an accident. That's deliberate. That's because of the policy agenda of this Albanese Labor government. I welcome, two-and-a-bit years into the parliamentary term, the appearance of the shadow Treasurer. That's a good thing for all of us. But if he wants to ask about living standards he should be honest about living standards and he should acknowledge that every time they put their hands up in this place it's to make life harder for people when we're trying to make life easier for people. Mr Pasin interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order. The member for Barker will cease interjecting. Dr CHALMERS: Every time they oppose more housing, every time they oppose energy bill relief, every time they oppose tax cuts, which the deputy leader says they want to unwind— Mr Bowen interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order. The Minister for Climate Change and Energy will cease interjecting. I'd like to hear from the Manager of Opposition Business on a point of order. Mr Fletcher: On relevance: it was a very tightly drafted question. Australian families have suffered a bigger fall in real disposable income per person than any other OECD country. If the Treasurer is unable to answer that, he should be— The SPEAKER: Resume your seat. He was asked: can he confirm that families— Mr Fletcher: He's failed to do it. The SPEAKER: Order. He just has to make sure his answer is relevant. As I said, he can do some compare and contrast regarding his answer. That can't be the entire answer. He hasn't been doing that. He's been talking about the government's achievements and what he's been doing. He has one minute and 20 seconds remaining. Dr CHALMERS: I have acknowledged that people are under extreme pressure. I have acknowledged that. But more than acknowledge that we are doing something about it. Only one side of this parliament cares about the pressures that people are under. That is why we're rolling out cost-of-living help. That's why we are cleaning up the mess they made of the budget. That's why we are investing in housing, in skills and energy and in a Future Made in Australia, because, when we came to office, real wages were falling, inflation had a six in front and was rising and interest rates had already started going up. Since we came to office, we have recognised the pressures people are under, we have recognised that growth in our economy is slow, and we have been fighting inflation without ignoring the risks to growth and the pressures people are under. If those opposite were serious about it, instead of opposing our changes to the tax cuts, instead of opposing our cost-of-living relief, instead of opposing getting wages moving, they would have supported it.