Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:14): I acknowledge Senator Canavan's interest in productivity. Presumably, he was really interested when they were in government and, over that decade, there was the worst productivity growth that had been seen in 40 years. Senator Birmingham interjecting— Senator GALLAGHER: Well, I'm just drawing your attention, Senator Birmingham, to the fact that you didn't really seem to care about productivity that much when you were in government,. But alright, accepting that you now do: that is why our housing investments are important. That's why our investments in skills are important. That's why our investments in renewable energy and the green transition are important. And that's why our investments in the care economy are important—all significant drivers of productivity in the economy. The PRESIDENT: Senator Gallagher, please resume your seat. Senator Birmingham? Senator Birmingham: The minister has had 48 seconds, and she's got 12 seconds left on the clock, to answer— The PRESIDENT: Is it a point of order? Senator Birmingham: the only question Senator Canavan asked, which is for the statistic. The PRESIDENT: Senator Birmingham, are you raising— Senator Birmingham: How much has productivity fallen under the Labor government? The PRESIDENT: Senator Birmingham, you can't just stand up and launch into a very short statement. You need to let me know if it's a point of order. I'm assuming it was. I believe the minister is being relevant, and I will continue to listen carefully. Minister. Senator GALLAGHER: It's a sore point for Senator Birmingham that they were in charge when Australia had the worst productivity outcomes in four decades and why they stood in front of any measure that we put in place to secure economic growth going forward. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Canavan, a second supplementary?