Mr GILES (Scullin—Minister for Immigration, Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs) (14:31): Thank you, shadow minister, for the question, but the premise upon which it proceeds just simply isn't true. We've never said that. Opposition members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! Members on my left. I give the call— Honourable members interjecting— The SPEAKER: When the House comes to order— Mr Pike interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Bowman will cease interjecting, or be warned, so I can hear from the member for Hawke.