Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:38): I would say to that pharmacist that the government wants to work with pharmacies and look at extra services that can be provided in terms of the work that they do. We are talking to the Pharmacy Guild and others through the Community Pharmacy Agreement. We want to support the work of pharmacies, but we don't believe that that should come out of the hip pocket of Australians who are struggling to afford to pay their medicines. That is the point of the reform. Senator Ruston interjecting— Senator GALLAGHER: Senator Ruston, who continues to ignore your direction, President, wants to have it both ways. She wants to pretend that the coalition supports the cost-of-living measure and then beat the government up on every other aspect. It is, as usual, so hypocritical. The PRESIDENT: Minister Gallagher, please resume your seat. Minister Wong. Senator Wong: I again raise that Senator Ruston, despite being called by you on numerous occasions, has not stopped interjecting. There are provisions in the standing orders to deal with a persistent and wilful obstruction of the business of the Senate. I ask her, through you— Senator Ruston interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston! Senator Wong: And she's still doing it. We understand interjections are a part of this place, but— Senator Ruston interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston! Senator Wong: And again, she's unable to stop. An opposition senator interjecting— Senator Wong: No, she's talking to me, actually. I would ask you to remind her of the standing orders. She is a senior member of the opposition— Senator Henderson: You're not the President. Senator Wong: I know I'm not the President. I'm addressing the President. The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Henderson! Senators, during question time I am reluctant to sit either the person asking the question or the minister down while I restore order. That is why I often name senators. I would expect that, if I name a senator, you would stop the interjections. Senator Ruston, I have called you at least five times and I called you twice just then. I would ask that you stop the interjections. The minister is to be heard in silence. Senator GALLAGHER: On the Tasmanian part of the question specifically, I have undertaken to come back to the senator directly.