Ms BURNEY (Barton—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:25): What Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people have asked for is constitutional recognition through a Voice. It is about recognising, listening and making a practical difference. If we didn't believe that before, look at the draft Productivity Commission report of just last week. In the words of Eddie Betts, the Adelaide and Carlton AFL legend— The SPEAKER: The minister will pause. The Deputy Leader of the Opposition is on her feet. I will hear from her. Ms Ley: A point of order on relevance, Mr Speaker. The question was very specific, and it went directly to the makarrata commission and the minister's responsibilities. I ask that you bring the minister back to order and back to the question. Mr Burke: To the point of order: I would add that the constant jibes that come from the Leader of the Opposition while the minister is speaking, including the attempted points of order without standing to take the chair, are completely disorderly and continuing. It hasn't been stopping the whole time. And the minister is being relevant to the question. The SPEAKER: I'm going to hear the minister—she's 30 seconds in—but I am going to ask her to return to the specifics of the question. Ms BURNEY: Let's vote yes for recognition, for listening and for better results.