Ms BURNEY (Barton—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (15:05): I thank the member for Barker for his question. I'm sorry that it appears that you aren't able to read the very simple instructions for what this is about. Clause 3 makes very clear— Mr Burnell interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Spence will leave the chamber under 94(a). The member for Spence then left the chamber. The SPEAKER: The member for Barker on a point of order? Mr Pasin: I ask the minister to withdraw. Whilst I did grow up in a household where English was not my first language, I can read. The SPEAKER: I'll just ask the minister if she can assist the House. Ms BURNEY: I'm very happy to assist the House and I withdraw that comment. I have said on at least five or six occasions this week what the Voice is responsible for and what the second reading speech of the Attorney-General said, particularly in relation to matters that affect Indigenous people differently. I think it is patently clear. But let me say this to the member for Barker: I have been to communities that are crying out for a different way of doing things. Ms Ley: That's not what the question was. The SPEAKER: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition will cease interjecting. Ms BURNEY: I have been to communities where there are 30 people living in two-bedroom homes. I have been to communities where babies are drinking sweet cordial— Ms Ley interjecting— The SPEAKER: The deputy leader will cease interjecting or be warned. I can't hear the minister. If the deputy leader interjects, she will be warned. Ms BURNEY: I have been to communities where babies are drinking sweet cordial instead of water because it's cheaper. I have been to communities where you cannot get in and out, because of the road conditions. I have taken a friend, who died at 43 of end-of-life renal failure, to visit his son in jail. I have seen friends die in hospitals when they were very young because their conditions in their life when they were young were terrible. Mr Rick Wilson: Two dead women in the last week. The SPEAKER: The member for O'Connor is warned. Ms BURNEY: So do not tell me what I do or do not know about Aboriginal Australia, and do not tell me that the proposition that the Prime Minister has outlined is not needed in this country. I am not interested in culture wars; I am interested in closing the gap.