Mr BUTLER (Hindmarsh—Minister for Health and Aged Care and Deputy Leader of the House) (14:27): I welcome this question because I and the rest of my ministerial colleagues, I can tell you, take the Prime Minister's mandatory ministerial code of conduct very, very seriously. After my appointment as the Minister for Health and Ageing, I made all of the appropriate declarations to the Prime Minister that are required by the code. Out of an abundance of caution, that included my wife's engagement with 89 Degrees East in spite of the fact that her contract for services with that company had concluded in late 2021 in anticipation of the birth of our child. But given the possibility that she might enter a new contract for services at some point in the future, which she did, ultimately, in February of this year, arrangements are in place to manage any potential conflict, consistent with long-standing practice for ministers of both sides of politics and their spouses. The SPEAKER: The minister will pause. I will hear from the deputy leader of the opposition. Ms Ley: I rise on a point of order on relevance. It refers to the minister's answer to the question why did he not recuse himself from a ERC decision that his own spokesperson— The SPEAKER: Order! I will hear from the Leader of the House. Mr Burke: On relevance, the minister is being clearly relevant to the question that was put before him. I get that the deputy leader is familiar with the concept of what it does look like when someone breaches the ministerial code. Government members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! Ministers on my right will cease interjecting immediately. Manager of opposition business. Mr Fletcher: That is a completely inappropriate comment from the Leader of the House, as he knows well, and he should withdraw it. The SPEAKER: To assist the House, if the Manager of Opposition Business finds that term offensive, I will ask the— Honourable members interjecting— The SPEAKER: He was making a statement, but if there is offence taken, my process is to— Honourable members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! To assist the House, I couldn't hear the full comment. But if there is an offensive comment made, I am just going to ask the Leader of the House— Mr Burke: If I am asked to, on the basis of assisting the House, I withdraw. The SPEAKER: Thank you. Back to the point of order from the Deputy Leader of the Opposition, I am listening carefully to his answer. He is going step by step in terms of the process, in terms of what actions have been taken. He is being entirely relevant. I will ask him to continue, and I will listen carefully to make sure he is. Mr BUTLER: I can confirm that at no time has any matter been before me for a decision about that company. Were that to happen, I would manage that in accordance with longstanding arrangements followed by both sides of politics about potential conflicts between ministers and their spouses.