Mr TAYLOR (Hume—Minister for Energy) (14:14): I thank the member for his question. We are seeing, over the next 2½ years, an investment of $15 billion committed to new generation in the electricity sector. That will see a 250 per cent increase in the solar and wind in our sector, from nine per cent of generation up to 23 per cent of generation in the next 2½ years. Whilst ensuring that we will get emissions below 26 per cent by the early 2020s, the challenge this creates is we need to have enough dispatchable 24/7 power in the system to keep the lights on and keep prices down. That's why we are underwriting new generation, new supply, to make sure those prices come down. We are also taking on the big energy companies. And we're doing that because we have seen dodgy practices, we have seen manipulation and we have seen price gouging from those in the energy sector that are more interested in the bottom line than the interests of customers. Those opposite have a big decision to make: whose side do they sit on? Do they sit on the side of the hardworking small businesses and families of Australia— The SPEAKER: The minister will resume his seat. The member for Melbourne on a point of order? Mr Bandt: On relevance: my question was about the level of exposure, and if he doesn't know that—if he doesn't know whether emissions are going up or down—he should just say so. Honourable members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Members can cease interjecting The minister will resume his seat—I haven't called you; I need to rule on the point of order raised by the member for Melbourne. His question had a long preamble and at least three questions in it, so it's not in order to raise a point of order and seek that the minister answer one single part of it. If the member for Melbourne wants the minister to be contained in his answer to a specific area, he needs to make sure that the question is specific to that point. Mr TAYLOR: The real question here is: which side of the table do those opposite sit on? Do they sit on the side of the hardworking small businesses and families of Australia, or do they sit on the side of the big energy companies? We on this side sit with those hardworking small businesses and families across Australia.