Mr TURNBULL (Wentworth—Prime Minister) (14:26): I thank the honourable member for her question. The honourable member should recognise, and I am sure she does, that there are legitimate views about the way in which different weapons should be classified. And to try to demonise Australian gun owners and shooters because they have a particular view about the appropriate classification of a firearm is outrageous. It is the contempt that people in the Labor Party have for people in regional and rural Australia who need guns in order to sustain their livelihoods in terms of exterminating feral pests on their own properties and in terms of recreation. We have a very good balance in Australia. We have a very well-regulated firearms sector. It is very well regulated. It was set in place by John Howard and Tim Fischer. It is one of the great prides of the coalition. What we are doing here is ensuring that the state and territory police ministers have the opportunity to consider and reclassify lever action shotguns. There is a difference of opinion in the community about the appropriate classification, but can I say, Mr Speaker, I am not aware of anybody that wants to leave the classification as it is. Every argument I have seen involves strengthening the classification, and the debate is as to how far it should go. That is a legitimate point of view on which there are differences of opinion. Mr Brendan O'Connor interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Gorton is now warned! Mr TURNBULL: But what there should be no difference of opinion on is whether we want to stamp out illegal firearms. That is the real issue. I do not want to cause grief to the families of victims, but, Mr Speaker, if you go through the victims of terrorism in our country, you will find the consistent thread of illegal firearms. That is what is putting our people at risk. We are determined to stop their importation, we are standing up for the safety of Australians and we are demanding that we impose mandatory minimum sentences. For Labor to say they have an in-principle objection is demonstrated to be absurd. Only a few years ago in government, Labor advocated and legislated mandatory minimum sentences for people smuggling. Why? Because they thought it was a horrendous crime that needed to be stamped out and there needed to be a strong measure of deterrence. Gun smuggling is a similarly horrendous crime. We ask Labor to join us in stamping it out. The SPEAKER: The Minister for Revenue and Financial Services. Ms O'Dwyer: Mr Speaker, during the Prime Minister's speech, the member for Greenway made a very unparliamentary remark and referred to shooting people, and I ask her to withdraw. The SPEAKER: I am going to treat this in exactly the same consistent manner I have on every occasion. It was very loud. I did not hear anything. I need to ask the member for Greenway to come to the dispatch box and ask her whether she made an unparliamentary remark. Ms Rowland: I did not, Mr Speaker. The SPEAKER: The member for Greenway will resume her seat.