Mr ABBOTT (Warringah—Prime Minister) (14:24): I am inviting the states and territories. I am inviting members opposite. Ms King interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Ballarat will desist. Mr ABBOTT: I am inviting all interested Australians to consider whether there are better ways in the future of running our federation than we have seen in the past. That is what I am doing. I am inviting Australians to enter into a mature debate about an important subject rather than dig trenches and hurl insults at each other, which sadly is what all too often has happened in recent times. As for the claims that the Leader of the Opposition has made, I probably should respond to those claims with the facts. The facts are that, when it comes to public hospitals, our finding goes up eight per cent this year, eight per cent next year—actually I am wrong— Mr Dreyfus interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Isaacs will desist. Mr ABBOTT: It is nine per cent this year, nine per cent next year, nine per cent the year after that and six per cent in year 4. Mr Burke interjecting— The SPEAKER: As will the member for Watson. Mr ABBOTT: In education in schools it is eight per cent this year, eight per cent next year, eight per cent the year after that and six per cent in the final year. So I am very happy to see the Leader of the Opposition participating in this debate, but it would be nice if he would participate on the basis of facts.