Mr ABBOTT (Warringah—Prime Minister) (14:38): I stand by my comments, and I simply point out to the shadow minister who asked the question: if it is right and proper for a modest co-payment to be applied to people getting PBS drugs, how can it be wrong and immoral for people to be charged a modest co-payment for a visit to the GP? Ms King: Speaker, I rise on a point of order going to relevance. The Prime Minister was asked a question about the bulk-billing rate and his failure to actually know what it is and Australia's reliance on it. Perhaps he could answer that question. The SPEAKER: That is an argument. There is no point of order. The member will resume her seat. The Prime Minister will continue his answer to the question as put. Mr ABBOTT: This issue of the so-called unfairness of co-payments— Ms King: 'So-called'! Mr ABBOTT: Well, how can it be unfair when Labor imposes a co-payment on Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme drugs? How can it be fair for Labor to impose a co-payment and unfair for the coalition to impose a co-payment? This exposes the utter, absolute and total hypocrisy of members opposite. We all know that the father of the Medicare co-payment is Bob Hawke; we all know that the mother of the Medicare co-payment is the member for Jagajaga— Ms Macklin interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Jagajaga will desist and withdraw that remark. Mr ABBOTT: We all know that the son of the Medicare co-payment is the member for Fraser. I have discovered that a kind of cousin of the co-payment is in fact the member for Hunter, who said that the co-payment decision was a very brave one, but it was justifiable; it was a decision designed to address the ever-burgeoning cost while maintaining the scheme's most basic aim: affordability. He was talking about the PBS, but what is right for the PBS is right for Medicare as well. Ms King: Madam Speaker, I am just seeking leave to table a transcript of the Bolt Report where the Prime Minister stated that the bulk-billing rebate for GP visits was 70 per cent. The SPEAKER: I made a ruling about requesting for leave to table. Mr Pyne: It's on the public record. Ms King: It might assist the Prime Minister. The SPEAKER: It is a moot point whether the actual transcript is on the public record; certainly the words are. So I think we will say it is on the public record.