Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:58): My recollection is that those provisions were in part as a result of the advice from national security agencies but I am sure that will be—you know, laughing at that, Senator, I find remarkable. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Once again, order across the chamber. Minister Wong, please continue. Senator WONG: David Meagher, the brother of former police officer Peter Meagher, who was killed at Bondi, has said, 'An antisemite without a gun is a hate-filled person; an antisemite with a gun is a killer.' So, Senator— Senator McDonald: What about a car? What about knives? What about a bomb? Senator WONG: I will take that interjection. What about a car? They are not the same thing. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order!