Senator THORPE (Victoria—Independent VIC Whip) (14:27): The NT has the second highest incarceration rate in the world and is 90 per cent First Peoples. While police can kill us and walk free, you have the power to overturn any law in the Northern Territory, as the federal government has done before. Will you commit to using your federal powers now to stand up for our people against the racist CLP government? The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, you can't make aspersions against federal, state or territory governments. I'm going to ask to you withdraw that last comment. Senator Thorpe: Why can't I criticise a racist government, President—with all due respect? The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, I've had numerous discussions with you— Senator Thorpe: They're clearly racist. The PRESIDENT: You're not in a debate with me. I've asked you to withdraw, and that is what I want you to do—simply withdraw your last statement. Senator Thorpe: I'm stating a fact—that a coroner said that they— The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, you will cease to be heard if you don't withdraw. Senator Thorpe: [inaudible] the violence of the colony. I withdraw. The PRESIDENT: Thank you. Minister McCarthy.