Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:12): We absolutely stand by the policy we announced in the election and the policies that we implemented previously, and we have made clear— Senator Gallagher interjecting— Senator WONG: As Senator Gallagher reminds me, you actually supported them, Senator Ruston. That's how good they were. Those policies will see Australians being able to access urgent care clinics. As you know, we increased the number of those in the first term from what we promised, and now we have committed to further investment in urgent care clinics. As you know, Senator Ruston, they do provide access to bulk-billing. Yesterday I took the opportunity to remind you of the history of our investment in bulk-billing in this country. In 2023 we tripled the bulk-billing incentive for pensioners and concession card holders. When those 11 million Australians go to the GP, they are bulk-billed 90 per cent of the time. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston? Senator Ruston: On direct relevance—I was quite clear. All I asked the minister was whether the statements made by the Prime Minister which categorically state that Australians will get free access to their GP—all Australians— The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston— Senator Ruston: Will they stand by that? The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, I did remind you yesterday that when you call your point of order there's no need to repeat the question. The minister is being directly relevant. Minister Wong. Senator WONG: Again I remind the senator that bulk-billing is the way in which you deliver access for Australians with their Medicare cards. That is the primary way in which governments ensure we do deliver that. As I said, in 2023 we tripled the bulk-billing incentive for pensioners and concession card holders. That means, when those 11 million Australians go to the GP, they are bulk-billed 90 per cent of the time. Now what are we doing? We are expanding that reform, because we're extending that bulk-billing incentive to cover all 26 million Australians for the first time. We were upfront with Australians that we anticipate that, by 2030, that will enable nine out of 10 GP visits to be bulk-billed. I don't know which part of that, Senator, you don't support. Which part of that do you not support? I thought you did support this policy at the last election, or have you reverted to the position that you— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, first supplementary?