Senator McALLISTER (New South Wales—Minister for Emergency Management and Minister for Cities) (14:03): As I have already indicated, the ABC has editorial and operational independence. It is— Senator Ruston interjecting— Senator Cash interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Ruston and Senator Cash! Minister, please continue. Senator McALLISTER: It is for— Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my right! Minister, please continue. Senator McALLISTER: It is for the ABC to determine how the editing, which has been widely reported, occurred. I understand that a number of public comments have been made in relation to that. I will say this: this government supports the ABC and supports its editorial independence. We support the act. We support the operation of the ABC under the act. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Minister McAllister, please resume your seat. Senator Henderson, no; I will come to you in a moment. I have called for order a number of times. I've called out a number of senators for their very rude, disrespectful and wilful interjections. I'm asking that you listen in silence. Senator Henderson? Senator Henderson: A point of order on direct relevance—I asked if the minister will condemn the ABC for this outrageous breach of journalistic ethics. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Henderson. There is no point of order, and the minister is being directly relevant. Minister, please continue. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on both sides of the chamber. Minister. Senator McALLISTER: As I've indicated, the minister is well aware of how the act operates. (Time expired)