Senator McALLISTER (New South Wales—Minister for Emergency Management and Minister for Cities) (14:58): Senator, we're in a period— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Minister McAllister, please resume your seat. Senators, if you can't listen in silence, I invite you to leave the chamber. Minister McAllister, please continue. Senator McALLISTER: We are in a period of very significant technological change across a range of fronts, and this is one of them. The National Electric Vehicle Strategy is this government's response to that. It's a pathway to cut our transport emissions, but it also has three objectives which are relevant to the question that you ask. The first is to increase the supply of affordable and accessible EVs, the second is to increase the resources, systems and infrastructure to enable rapid electric vehicle uptake and the third is to encourage increased EV demand. Part of that is thinking about waste. Senator Hughes interjecting— Senator McALLISTER: I encourage you to go and take a look at the strategy, have a look at the appraisal and have a look at the measures that are being proposed and set out in that strategy. Senator Hughes interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Hughes, this is not your question! I have previously asked the minister to resume her seat. I invited people who could not listen in silence to leave the chamber. That applies to you. Senator Rennick, second supplementary?