Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:36): Senator, you asked first about religious discrimination and now about the EPBC reform— The PRESIDENT: Minister Wong, please resume your seat. Senator Hanson Senator Hanson: My point of order is on relevance—I never mentioned the religious discrimination bill at all in any part of my question. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Hanson. Minister Wong. Senator WONG: You're quite correct, Senator. I inferred infer that from the interjections. You nodded when they interjected, so I assumed that that was the legislation you were referring to. If you were referring to the nature positive bill—which, I think, is the EPBC reform—I understand that consultation on drafts of the new laws is continuing and that there is a broad view. We need to deal with laws which are seen by many as ineffective and inefficient—obviously, people's perspective depends on which side they are in that discussion. The advice I have is that experts from almost 100 groups are examining draft parts of the legislation to make sure that the laws will be as effective as possible, and we will keep engaging with— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Hanson, second supplementary?