Senator WATT (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry and Minister for Emergency Management) (14:42): Thank you, Senator Thorpe. Obviously, I'm not in a position to disclose announcements that the government may make in the context of this year's budget. Sitting this close to the Minister for Finance, it would be very dangerous to reveal those kinds of things! But certainly the government does acknowledge that there are some very real issues around legal aid funding, including to Aboriginal legal services in the way that you've described. As I understand it, the Attorney-General has commenced a review surrounding these issues. No doubt, once that review is completed, he will be in a position to say more about that, but what we are doing in the meantime is fulfilling an election commitment by designing and implementing the National Justice Reinvestment Program, which will provide $79 million to support community-led justice reinvestment initiatives. The government opened applications for the National Justice Reinvestment Program and the Justice Reinvestment in Central Australia Program in September 2023. In the first cycle— The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Senator Thorpe? Senator Thorpe: The point of order is on relevance. I wasn't asking about the non-reinvestment of the reinvestment, because it's not reinvestment. The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, you need to make your point of order. Senator Thorpe: Can we stick to what the question is? That is: are you going to fund these legal services, or are you just going to talk the crap that you always do? The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, withdraw that comment, please. Senator Thorpe: I withdraw. The PRESIDENT: The minister is being relevant. He has spoken about the budget. I'll give him the call again. Senator WATT: Senator Thorpe, I have answered your questions by saying that we're not in a position to describe what will be included in this year's budget, whether it be in this space or any other space. We understand there are some very real issues in this area, and that is why we are undertaking this action. In the first cycle of the Justice Reinvestment Program, nine initiatives have been selected for funding, and applications remain open year-round. We are clearly committed to this by having already put in place $79 million to support those community-led justice reinvestment initiatives. The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, first supplementary?