Senator DAVID POCOCK (Australian Capital Territory) (14:34): Minister, going to your point about indexation, in terms of funding that the women's legal centres receive under the NLAP agreement, there is indexation of 1.6 per cent this financial year. The cost of employing a mid-level solicitor has jumped by 27 per cent. How are they meant to provide Australians in need with services? The government crows about indexation of 1.6 per cent while the services' costs are going through the roof.