Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:22): Can I just go to the last point? I think it's all of our jobs. I do. I think racism is still pervasive. We know what it means. It derives from seeing another person as other and diminishing them— Senator Faruqi: It happens every day, Minister. Senator WONG: I really find it distressing that you are going to interrupt when I am talking about this. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, I ask you to direct your answers to the chair. Senator McKim? Senator McKim: That was going to be my point of order. The PRESIDENT: Have you finished your answer, Senator Wong? Senator Faruqi, second supplementary?