Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:16): I know that Senator McKenzie really can't wait. She hasn't waited for the government to actually make a final decision on this before running a fear campaign, a scare campaign, about particular cars. I again remind her that she's asking questions about reports of US action in an economy that has had these sorts of standards for how many decades? I can't recall. It's been decades. So the scare campaign, I think, falls a little short when we're reminded that, in fact, the United States, which she's asking about, has had these standards in place for many years. The government will take an appropriate approach— Senator McKenzie: On a point of order, President, on relevance: the question was about the role that hybrids play in a low-emissions transport sector going forward whilst being absolutely ruled out. It's not me. It's not the US. It's actually economic modelling that says it's the case. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator McKenzie. It also went to the Biden administration, so the minister is being directly relevant to your question. Minister, please continue. Senator WONG: If I may quote Mr Fletcher: So when fuel efficiency standards were introduced in the US, the most popular models before introduction stayed the most popular models after introduction. Also from Paul Fletcher: There wasn't a material change in price and we don't expect that there would be a material change in price here. These are your own colleagues. (Time expired)