Senator DAVID POCOCK (Australian Capital Territory) (14:27): My question is for— Senator McKenzie interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Pocock, please resume your seat. Senator McKenzie, I had just called you to order. I invited Senator Pocock to ask his question, and you continued to yell across the chamber. Senator Pocock, please start again. Senator DAVID POCOCK: My question is for the Minister for Finance. Between January 2018 and 30 June 2021 the ANAO reported that the Commonwealth issued some $60.2 billion worth of grants. During this time we saw taxpayer money go to project after project based not on the needs of the community but on purely political marginal seat calculations, calculations that saw Canberra miss out time and again—from commuter car parks to sports rorts. Does the government believe that legislation is needed to put an end to pork-barrelling?